Subject: Info-Mac Digest V18 #103 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Thu, 26 Jul 01 Volume 18 : Issue 103 Today's Topics: (Q) Blocking W32.Sircam.Worm@mm [*] /info-mac/art/zine/ATPM-707-print.pdf.sit.hqx [*] Bag Riddles program sent to ftp site [*] Cat and Mouse 2.0 [*] CDFinder 3.1.2 for Mac OS 8.5 - 9.1 [*] CDFinder 3.1.2 for Mac OS X [*] DragThing D-4.0.2 (German) [*] DragThing F-4.0.2 (French) [*] DragThing J-4.0.2 (Japanese) [*] Framewright - MacOS program to create frame plug-ins for [*] iLabel 1.7 - label & card printing application [*] iLabel X 1.7 - label & card printing application [*] Teoma Plugin for Sherlock [*] Troi Coding Plug-in 1.6 for FileMaker Pro [*] Troi Dialog Plug-in 2.1 for FileMaker Pro [*] Troi File Plug-in 2.2 for FileMaker Pro [*] Troi Number Plug-in 1.1 for FileMaker Pro [*] Troi Text Plug-in 2.1 for FileMaker Pro [A] trouble printing [A] trouble printing (serial port busy) Cookie Remover for OS 9.1, Netscape Info-Mac Digest V18 #102 Re printing problem saving address in Outlook Express Subject: saving address in Outlook Express The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. 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Info-Mac volunteers include Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Hugh Lewis, Tom Coradeschi, Shawn Bunn, Christopher Li, Patrik Montgomery, Ed Chambers, and Chris Pepper. America Online donated the main Info-Mac machine . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V18 #103" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:04:25 -0700 From: Paul Brians To: wsu-macusers-list@listproc.wsu.edu, digest@info-mac.org Subject: (Q) Blocking W32.Sircam.Worm@mm I'm being deluged with dozens of copies per day of the W32.Sircam.Worm@mm worm. Since each comes from a different address, has a different filename and often different suffix, and the messages to which they are attached all have different subjects, there wouldn't seem to be a good way to screen them out. I'm doing it manually, but the huge load of attachments is slowing down my e-mail. Any way I can get Eudora 5 to screen them out without blocking attachments I really want to receive? See for information about the worm. -- Paul Brians, Department of English Washington State University Pullman, WA 99164-5020 brians@wsu.edu http://www.wsu.edu/~brians ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: "A. Lee Bennett, Jr." To: Subject: [*] /info-mac/art/zine/ATPM-707-print.pdf.sit.hqx This is the print-optimized PDF edition of the July 2001 issue of ATPM. About This Particular Macintosh (ATPM) is a free monthly e-zine about the *personal* computing experience. If you prefer a screen-optimized PDF or an offline Webzine format, visit to download current and past issues in your preferred format. The contents of ATPM 7.07 are as follows: Columns Apple Cider: Cube Down the Tube? Beyond the Barline: Indeterminacy Hollywood: Where Are the Macintoshes? My Apple Wedge: With the Stroke of a Pen The Legacy Corner About This Particular Web Site Reviews Shareware Roundup: Stickies and Notepads -- Part Two ConceptDraw 1.61 X Engima 2.0 FreeHand 10 iWrite 1.2.1 Now Contact and Up-to-Date 4.0 Risk II Toast 5.01 Titanium Extras Desktop Pictures: Flowers and Konstanz, Germany/Cambridge, Massachusetts [Archived as /info-mac/art/zine/atpm-707-print.hqx; 1790 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: "Gary Smith" To: Subject: [*] Bag Riddles program sent to ftp site Program Name: Bag Riddles Category: Education/Math This program is freeware. Description: The program "hides" a number of different colored blocks, then offers fraction and pre-algebra hints to the student. For example: "2/3 of the block are red" or "There are three times as many yellow blocks as green blocks." Can you solve the riddle using just a few hints? The program has an unlimited number of both "Basic" and "Tough" riddles. [Archived as /info-mac/edu/yng/bag-riddles.hqx; 80 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Allgood Software To: Subject: [*] Cat and Mouse 2.0 Cat and Mouse, often known as "Spite and Malice", is a popular two player card game, a form of competitive patience. Players take turns trying to get rid of cards, while doing their best to try to block their opponent from doing the same. It's an easy game to learn, and you're sure to become addicted in no time. For the veteran card players, Cat and Mouse offers three different skill levels to play against, not to mention the option to banter with you during the game. Cat and Mouse also offers four unique game playing options, as the game is sometimes played differently in various areas: "Kings Wild", "Must Discard", "Must play Aces and Twos", and "Short Game". [Archived as /info-mac/game/crd/cat-and-mouse.hqx; 1967 K] ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jul 2001 From: "Norbert M. Doerner" To: Subject: [*] CDFinder 3.1.2 for Mac OS 8.5 - 9.1 CDFinder is a very fast and powerful tool to catalog your hard disks, CD-ROMs, DVDs, floppies, ZIPs and anything else that spins. It has a great user interface and very useful search functions. CDFinder supports drag&drop and requires a PowerPC CPU. While System 8.5 is required, CDFinder is also fully compatible to MacOS 9.1 and Mac OS X. A special feature is the multi-lingual user interface (German/French/English/Italian/Swedish/Chinese). Together with CDWinder 1.1.1 for Windows, this is a special cross platform, network solution to catalog disks and CD-ROMs on a Macintosh and a PC. The new version can be obtained from the CDFinder home page . A single user license of CDFinder is $20, multi user licenses are available. New in CDFinder 3.1.2: - Overall speed has been improved by a new memory engine and optimized display functions for the main window. - PowerFile DVD Jukebox support has been improved. - CDFinder now includes the names and comments of catalogs themselves into a Find operation. - CDFinder now makes use of the "Joliet Volume Access" extension written by Thomas Tempelmann . This allows CDFinder to catalog the complete file name of files with names longer than 31 characters on Joliet CD-ROMs. - CDFinder no longer allows the character "/" in catalog file names to make data exchange with CDWinder for Windows easier This version requires a PowerPC and at least Mac OS 8.5. Contact: Norbert M. Doerner Mozartstr. 16 64546 Moerfelden-Walldorf Germany [Archived as /info-mac/disk/cd-finder-312-ppc.hqx; 1150 K] ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jul 2001 From: "Norbert M. Doerner" To: Subject: [*] CDFinder 3.1.2 for Mac OS X CDFinder is a very fast and powerful tool to catalog your hard disks, CD-ROMs, DVDs, floppies, ZIPs and anything else that spins. It has a great user interface and very useful search functions. CDFinder supports drag&drop and requires a PowerPC CPU. While System 8.5 is required, CDFinder is also fully compatible to MacOS 9.1 and Mac OS X. A special feature is the multi-lingual user interface (German/French/English/Italian/Swedish/Chinese). Together with CDWinder 1.1.1 for Windows, this is a special cross platform, network solution to catalog disks and CD-ROMs on a Macintosh and a PC. The new version can be obtained from the CDFinder home page . A single user license of CDFinder is $20, multi user licenses are available. New in CDFinder 3.1.2: - Overall speed has been improved by a new memory engine and optimized display functions for the main window. - PowerFile DVD Jukebox support has been improved. - CDFinder now includes the names and comments of catalogs themselves into a Find operation. - CDFinder now makes use of the "Joliet Volume Access" extension written by Thomas Tempelmann . This allows CDFinder to catalog the complete file name of files with names longer than 31 characters on Joliet CD-ROMs. - CDFinder no longer allows the character "/" in catalog file names to make data exchange with CDWinder for Windows easier - Several bugs have been fixed. This version requires Mac OS X Contact: Norbert M. Doerner Mozartstr. 16 64546 Moerfelden-Walldorf Germany [Archived as /info-mac/disk/cd-finder-312-x.hqx; 1036 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: James Thomson To: Subject: [*] DragThing D-4.0.2 (German) DragThing D-4.0.2 is the latest German language version of my dock application DragThing. DragThing 4 is a Carbon application which runs natively on Mac OS X, and on Mac OS 8.6 and 9 with CarbonLib 1.1 or later installed. For more information, check out the official DragThing website at: Thanks, James [Archived as /info-mac/gui/dragthing-402-de.hqx; 1604 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: James Thomson To: Subject: [*] DragThing F-4.0.2 (French) DragThing F-4.0.2 is the latest French language version of my dock application DragThing, kindly translated by Philippe Bonnaure. DragThing 4 is a Carbon application which runs natively on Mac OS X, and on Mac OS 8.6 and 9 with CarbonLib 1.1 or later installed. For more information, check out the official DragThing website at: and Philippe's translation site at: [Archived as /info-mac/gui/dragthing-402-fr.hqx; 1646 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: James Thomson To: Subject: [*] DragThing J-4.0.2 (Japanese) DragThing J-4.0.2 is the latest Japanese language version of my dock application DragThing. DragThing 4 is a Carbon application which runs natively on Mac OS X, and on Mac OS 8.6 and 9 with CarbonLib 1.1 or later installed. For more information, check out the official DragThing website at: [Archived as /info-mac/gui/dragthing-402-jp.hqx; 1578 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Panda Systems To: Subject: [*] Framewright - MacOS program to create frame plug-ins for Framewright is a freeware tool for the creation of frame plug-ins to be used with PandoCalendar and PandoFrame version 3.0 or greater. It enables you to custom create your own picture frames! [Archived as /info-mac/gui/framewright.hqx; 162 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Bruno Blondeau To: Subject: [*] iLabel 1.7 - label & card printing application The 1.7 version of iLabel has been released. iLabel is a powerful but yet easy to use label printing application primarily aimed at producing mailing labels, but also visit cards, enveloppes... Virtually any label format is supported thanks to an extensive range of Avery templates as well as advanced settings for other formats. This new version mainly introduces support for round labels, a complete documentation, and several bug fixes. MacOS 8-9 and MacOS X versions of iLabel are available. Web site : http://www.brunoblondeau.com/ilabel MacOS 8/9 version: http://www.brunoblondeau.com/ilabel/ilabel.sit MacOS X version: http://www.brunoblondeau.com/ilabel/ilabelcarbon.sit What's new ? ============ - iLabel now supports round labels - Added complete documentation and a FAQ document - Category popup now works better in the Avery tab - Fixed a problem with caused some saved strings to be no longer editable after opening a file - Several small cosmetic fixes to the user interface - English mistake corrected (Measuring Unit) - iLabel opens by default on the Page Layout tab - Fixed scrolling problem in some text fields - Fixed bug which sometimes caused an incorrect label size after opening a file - Internal code improvements for easier localization Description ----------- iLabel is the perfect application for all your repetitive printing tasks, may you want to print your business cards or the labels for your next mailing! It can for example be used to design and print business cards, using the ********** ABSTRACT CROPPED ********** [Archived as /info-mac/prn/ilabel-17.hqx; 718 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Bruno Blondeau To: Subject: [*] iLabel X 1.7 - label & card printing application The 1.7 version of iLabel has been released. iLabel is a powerful but yet easy to use label printing application primarily aimed at producing mailing labels, but also visit cards, enveloppes... Virtually any label format is supported thanks to an extensive range of Avery templates as well as advanced settings for other formats. This new version mainly introduces support for round labels, a complete documentation, and several bug fixes. MacOS 8-9 and MacOS X versions of iLabel are available. Web site : http://www.brunoblondeau.com/ilabel MacOS 8/9 version: http://www.brunoblondeau.com/ilabel/ilabel.sit MacOS X version: http://www.brunoblondeau.com/ilabel/ilabelcarbon.sit What's new ? ============ - iLabel now supports round labels - Added complete documentation and a FAQ document - Category popup now works better in the Avery tab - Fixed a problem with caused some saved strings to be no longer editable after opening a file - Several small cosmetic fixes to the user interface - English mistake corrected (Measuring Unit) - iLabel opens by default on the Page Layout tab - Fixed scrolling problem in some text fields - Fixed bug which sometimes caused an incorrect label size after opening a file - Internal code improvements for easier localization Description ----------- iLabel is the perfect application for all your repetitive printing tasks, may you want to print your business cards or the labels for your next mailing! It can for example be used to design and print business cards, using the ********** ABSTRACT CROPPED ********** [Archived as /info-mac/prn/ilabel-17-x.hqx; 717 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Horst Prillinger To: Subject: [*] Teoma Plugin for Sherlock This plugin enables Sherlock to search Teoma, a new and very powerful Internet search engine. Please notice that I am not affiliated with Teoma Technologies in any way. This plugin will automatically update itself if a newer version becomes available. If it doesn't work right away after downloading, an update may be available. Please wait three days (after which the automatic update will occur), or check out my web site below for an update. This and other Sherlock plugins can be downloaded from http://www.aardvark.at/software/ [Archived as /info-mac/cfg/teoma.hqx; 3 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Peter Baanen To: Subject: [*] Troi Coding Plug-in 1.6 for FileMaker Pro Troi Coding Plug-in is a very powerful tool for securing your FileMaker data, exporting or emailing your data without risk and importing safely back into FileMaker. All from within FileMaker you can: - encrypt fields using the powerful newDES encryption scheme, so that your sensitive data is secure - export encrypted data that can be sent safely over the Internet, for example via email. No risk that someone will read or change the data while in transit - use the decoding functions to restore the original information after you have imported the received email or export file back into FileMaker, with the assurance that nobody will have tampered with it - verify data integrity and sources with the checksum function - create text signatures to ensure the text is original - make conversions to and from binary - compress databases with large text fields New Features Troi Coding Plug-in 1.6 (release date June 25th, 2001) adds these new functions and features: - Tested with FileMaker 5.5 and made compatible for Mac OS X. The Mac OS version of the plug-in is now a so called 'Super Fat' plug-in that will run on Mac OS 8, 9 and Mac OS X. - Improved Version function. It now also can show the Flash Dialog and return a version build number. Troi Coding Plug-in is shareware and costs US$ 39 per user. Developer licenses and multi-user discounts are available. [Archived as /info-mac/data/troi-coding-plug-16.hqx; 559 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Peter Baanen To: Subject: [*] Troi Dialog Plug-in 2.1 for FileMaker Pro Troi Dialog Plug-in is a very powerful tool for displaying real dialogs in FileMaker Pro. The text of the dialog and also the buttons can be created dynamically by using a calculation. All from within FileMaker you can: - show dialogs with variable text and up to 4 buttons - show temporary flash screens - show a progress bar for lengthy operations - let a user input text through a dialog - show a list dialog - add a standard icon or your own icons - set the text for the dialog title bar New Features The Troi Dialog Plug-in 2.1 (release date May 29th, 2001) adds these new functions and features: - Tested with FileMaker 5.5 and made compatible for Mac OS X. The Mac OS version of the plug-in is now a so called 'Super Fat' plug-in that will run on Mac OS 8, 9 and Mac OS X. - Set the title bar of the dialog to any text you want. - Improved "Version" function. It can retrieve the version number of the plug-in. This allows you to check which version is running, so you'll know if certain functionality is available. - Show the Flash Dialog from a script. This makes checking the registration state for end-users easier. - Updated the user guide, with expanded description on Progress bar dialogs. - Fixed a few bugs too. Suggested Uses - Give your users better and flexible feedback. - Show quick instructions without the user having to dismiss the dialog every time. - Build multi-language systems more easily. - Make your solutions look more professional by using your own icons and title bars in dialogs. Troi Dialog Plug-in is shareware and costs US$ 35 per user. Developer licenses and multi-user discounts are available. [Archived as /info-mac/data/troi-dialog-plug-21.hqx; 615 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Peter Baanen To: Subject: [*] Troi File Plug-in 2.2 for FileMaker Pro Troi File Plug-in 2.2 is a very powerful tool for getting access to information outside the FileMaker Pro database. Any files stored on the computer can be accessed through the functions of the plug-in. All from within FileMaker you can: - get data out of files that are on the disk of the computer - create files anywhere on the hard disk and put data from FileMaker fields into it - manipulate files and folders on the disk: this includes creation, deletion, copying, moving and modifying files and folders - count the number of folders or files on a disk - import pictures and optionally store only a reference to them in FileMaker Pro New Features Troi File Plug-in 2.2 (release date June 12th, 2001) adds these new functions and features: - Tested with FileMaker 5.5 and made compatible for Mac OS X. The Mac OS version of the plug-in is now a so called 'Super Fat' plug-in that will run on Mac OS 8, 9 and Mac OS X. - All selection dialogs now use Navigation Services when available on the computer. - Improved example files especially the Multi Import Image example file. - Improved Version function. It now also can show the Flash Dialog and return a version build number. - And a few bug fixes too. =) Suggested Uses * Batch import of images, movies, sounds, text files, etc. * Keep your database small, by storing only references to images * Creating a web site by exporting multiple HTML files * Updating solutions, by moving database files into place * Reading and writing custom formatted files, for example from legacy systems * Cataloging complete projects, including pictures Troi File Plug-in is shareware and costs US$ 42 per user. Developer licenses and multi-user discounts are available. [Archived as /info-mac/data/troi-file-plug-in-22.hqx; 1124 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Peter Baanen To: Subject: [*] Troi Number Plug-in 1.1 for FileMaker Pro Troi Number Plug-in adds dynamic balance functions to FileMaker Pro. Troi Number plug-in makes it possible to show a running balance of a value in any portal, especially SORTED portals. It does so on-the-fly, whenever any portal data is entered or edited, including changes to the sort key field(s). If for example you change a date and the line "slides" to a new position, all new displayed values are updated. This functionality is accomplished without scripting. New Features Troi Number Plug-in 1.1 (release date July 2nd, 2001) adds these new functions and features: - Tested with FileMaker 5.5 and made compatible for Mac OS X. The Mac OS version of the plug-in is now a so called 'Super Fat' plug-in that will run on Mac OS 8, 9 and Mac OS X. - Improved Version function. It now also can show the Flash Dialog and return a version build number. - Updated the documentation and example files. Also a new example with dynamic dates was added. - And to give the eye some candy we even gave the plug-in a new logo =) Troi Number Plug-in is shareware and costs US$ 19 per user. Developer licenses and multi-user discounts are available. [Archived as /info-mac/data/troi-num-plug-in-11.hqx; 706 K] ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jul 2001 From: Peter Baanen To: Subject: [*] Troi Text Plug-in 2.1 for FileMaker Pro Troi Text Plug-in is a very powerful tool for dealing efficiently with text in your FileMaker Pro database. It adds the following functions to FileMaker Pro: - Combine sets from 2 text fields: * get all lines that are the same * get all lines that differ * and other combinations - Get (unique) lines and sort words and lines - Make a text sum from a related file that even updates without a script. - Parse XML Text into fields - and more... New Features Except for compatibility with FileMaker 5.5 and Mac OS X, the Troi Text Plug-in 2.1 (release date May 15th, 2001) has the same functionality as the 2.0.1 version, which added these new functions and features: * New "XML" function. With this function you can import information from XML data files and parse it into your FileMaker Pro database. It will allow you to get the specified node out of an XML formatted field. It will deal with nested nodes, returning all child nodes or just the child node you specify. You can also retrieve the attributes of nodes. * New "NOTText" function. Now you can also retrieve lines that are in one text field only. * New SortLinesEx function which can also sort in reverse alphabetical order. *Improved "Version" function to retrieve the version number of the plug-in. This allows you to check which version is running, so you'll know if certain functionality is available. * Show the Flash Dialog from a script. This makes checking the registration state for end users easier. * New and updated Example databases 12 FileMaker files illustrate the use of each of the functions. [Archived as /info-mac/data/troi-text-plug-in-21.hqx; 559 K] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:22:32 -0400 From: Saint John To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: [A] trouble printing At 14:30 -0400 7/24/01, Ezra Nathan wrote: >My printer (StyleWriter 2500) has stopped printing. When I try to print I >get the message: "The serial port is currently in use by another >application. Please quite that application and print again." There is no >other application using the serial port. I have restarted and rebuilt the >desktop but the problem persists. It is not a hardware problem since when I >boot from a system on an external hard drive the printer works fine. >Any ideas what the problem might be and how to resolve it. You probably have AppleTalk turned on and using the printer port. Try opening the Chooser and turning AppleTalk off. You can also change it to another port using the AppleTalk control panel-- set it to Ethernet (built in) and your problems should go away after a reboot. +- Saint John -+ | "The well-bred contradict other people. The wise contradict | +-- themselves." (Oscar Wilde) --------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:56:06 -0400 From: Ken Laskey To: Ezra Nathan , Subject: [A] trouble printing (serial port busy) My guess is you've recently installed software (possibly a new Palm) that reserves the printer port. Thus, when you boot from your external, you have no problems because this doesn't have the new software, but the port is reserved by the software (possibly Serial Port Monitor) when you boot from your internal drive. If this is on the right track, turn off Serial Port Monitor and try Palm Synch-n-Quit in the Info_mac archives. -- Ken Laskey kenneth.j.laskey@saic.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:42:36 -0400 From: lawrence saphier To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Cookie Remover for OS 9.1, Netscape Does anyone have any suggestions about what software is available to remove Cookies. I am using OS9.1 and Netscape 4.77? Lawrence Saphier larrys@gate.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 22:10:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Norman Friedman To: digest@info-mac.org Subject: Info-Mac Digest V18 #102 I have had the same problem. Do you use a switcher box in order to use any other printer such as an ImageWriter. My problem was when I use my Visioner to either scan something or use it to copy, I change my switcher from stylewriter to the imagewriter. After using the scaner, I need to change the switcher back to stylewriter and also change in the CHOOSER. Then I restart and the problem does not occur. That is how my problem goes away. Let me know if you find other answers. norm@helix.nih.gov ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:31:09 -0400 From: John McGibney To: , InfoMac posting Subject: Re printing problem Sounds like Appletalk may be using that port for a localtalk connection. Open the Appletalk control panel and turn Appletalk off or switch it to the other serial port. If you're not using any networking software and Appletalk is off try switching the printer to the other port or reselecting the port in the Chooser. john _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:25:57 -0500 From: WJ Shack To: Ezra Nathan , Subject: saving address in Outlook Express On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:18:14 +0100, Ezra Nathan wrote: >I would like to save the address book in Outlook Express. Where can I locate >it and is it possible to save it as a back-up? > >Thanks, >> Ezra It doesn't exist as a separate file. Best way to back up is to use "Export Contacts" from File menu. You can then import to OE on you home computer or laptop or save in case your OE database file becomes corrupted. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:19:10 -0700 From: "Cyrus Roton" To: "The Info-Mac Network" Subject: Subject: saving address in Outlook Express Ezra Nathan wrote > I would like to save the address book in Outlook Express. Where can I locate > it and is it possible to save it as a back-up? It depends upon which version of OE you are using. In version 4.5, the Address Book is a file in the Main User folder (inside the OE User(s) folder). but, with OE 5, everything seems to be hidden. However, you can Export Contacts to a file which you can save. Later, you can Import Contacts from that file. ----- I'm not into working out. My philosophy: No pain, no pain. I'm still trying to figure out why kamikaze pilots wore helmets. ----- Cyrus W. Roton MITA tech Chairman, Ridgecrest Apple User Group -------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest-- End of Info-Mac Digest ******************************