Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #167 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Info-Mac-Digest" --Info-Mac-Digest Info-Mac Digest Wed, 09 Sep 98 Volume 16 : Issue 167 Today's Topics: (A) Netscape and clippings (C) Numerous Windows 98 installation bugs encountered (Q) Outlook Express 4.0.1 failed---help!!! (Q) Security on Netscape 4.0.6 decreased from 4.0.5 100 FE ethernet PCMCIA cards (Q) [A] Eudora Attachments [A] Good disk partitioning sw [A] Good disk partitioning sw [A] Sun monitor on a Mac? [Q] Modem regularly disconnecting [Q] Second Video Card for PCI Macs??? [Q] Second Video Card for PCI Macs??? [Q] Uploading files to Personal Net Finder broken cd on powerbook G3 (Q) c-key and cd-rom CD app - how to increase memory size Contextual Menu Problems and IE 4.0.1 Editing Extensions Manager Info ??? Eudora 4.0 for Macintosh features (Q) extra dialog box Harddisk trouble How do I do a system install from a zip drive? iMac, Laserwriter and 8600/200 Info-Mac Digest V16 #164 Memory Cache Question Memory Upgrade for Xclaim VR MS Word Doc problem Netscape Clipping NUM 4 OS update help PGP Freeware 6.0 PPP Redial printing from web pages printing web pages Printing Webpages Problem with MDBF virus Should I be using PowerFPU? Steve Jobs outlines OS plans Utility for checking memory configuration what does the getinfo information mean what does the getinfo information mean The Info-Mac Network is a volunteer organization that publishes the Info-Mac Digest and operates the Info-Mac Archive, a large network of FTP sites containing gigabytes of freely distributable Macintosh software. For more information, visit the Info-Mac Web site at . 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Or, click . * A full list of Info-Mac mirror sites is available at the URL below: * Search the archive at . Info-Mac volunteers include Gordon Watts, Adam C. Engst, Demitri Muna, Mike O'Bryan, Michael Bean, and Liam Breck. The Info-Mac Digest is sponsored in part by StarNine Technologies, developers of Internet server software for the Macintosh, including Web and email publishing systems. We'd also like to thank AOL for the main Info-Mac machine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --Info-Mac-Digest Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Info-Mac Digest V16 #167" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:52:03 -0600 (MDT) From: Neil Fiertel Subject: I have been trying to make a CD R boot disk with the operating system that I use (8.1) and the extensions and control panels and so forth that I generally use. I have been unable to do it. I get what appears to be a complete system folder but when I attempt to use it as a boot up disk by holding key C during a boot up it is not recognized as a start up disk and the computer goes to the hard drive as usual. I have attmepted to put all files on the root directory and so forth. the system suitcase seems not to be activated in some way. Anyone know how to make a disk that will worK? Oh yes, it seems Apple thought I was trying to duplicate their product to avoid buying the disk...no matter how I explained what I wanted I got nowhere with them. I just want to have another way to boot the computer to that I can use AV without the system taking up space on my hard drive. Incidetnally I am using a G3 and the G3 CD 8.0 with a separate system 8.1 updater. Thanks in advance. Please Email me directly nfiertel@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:38:52 -0500 From: Gib Henry Subject: (A) Netscape and clippings >Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:11:00 >From: >Subject: (Q) Netscape and clippings > > >Anyone know how to create a text clipping out of a Netscape page window? >Netscape is the only application I know where you can't wipe the text you >want, and drag it to the desktop to create a clipping. I don't want the >whole page, just the highlighted text. Surely, either Netscape itself >supports such a function and I don't know the "secret handshake," or maybe >there is a plug-in somewhere to make it happen. > >Thanks for the help, gang. Suggestions to switch to IE4 cheerfully ignored. >;-) >-RAG >"My Mac is a Microsoft-free zone. I think...." Try Net-Print: it will do what you want. It is designed to print, clip, save, or append text selected in your browser (or any other application). E.g., you can browse a bunch of different pages and append selected text from each page in sequence to a single text file (or multiple text files, if you prefer). I'm sure it's on Info-Mac, but you can also find it at http://www.luminet.net/~dmoe. Hope this helps. Cheers, -- Gib Henry (remove 'xspam.' for reply) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 01:51:59 -0400 From: abrody Subject: (C) Numerous Windows 98 installation bugs encountered Dear comp.sys.mac.digest readers, Well here's fuel to argue with PC users about whether they should change to a Mac or their upgrade existing PC with Windows 98: http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/news/0629/01awin98.html It talks about numerous instances of LAN cards and modem cards not recognized upon the upgrade from Windows 95, and much more that if I were to list them here bandwith with be constrained. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 18:05:45 -0400 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: (Q) Outlook Express 4.0.1 failed---help!!! Dear Digest reader, All flames regarding this matter will be trashed. I have been using Outlook Express now for 5 months, and all of a sudden the preferences have gone haywire. I check the Finder folders where the e-mail is supposed to be, and they are safe and sound. I have attempted to reimport those folders, but it only seems to give me the option of importing them one at a time. With over 100 folders, it would take too long to import them one by one. But so far a new user setting for Outlook Express is blind to the existance of folders already there, and all I see are my in/out, and trash boxes. Any idea how to import the old folders into a new Outlook Express setting? Please reply directly to me. Meanwhile I'll have to use Eudora, which is fine, but a lot of e-mail that is valuable to me is still in Outlook Express format. What would really be nice is if there was a Mac version of Eudora that had frames and Newsgroup access, with the frames displaying each folder on the side, the contents of the folders on top and the contents of the e-mail selected on bottom. And the Eudora should be able to import Outlook Express. Does the commercial version of Eudora 4.0 for the Mac do this? I would get it if it did. Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 21:26:28 -0400 From: abrody Subject: (Q) Security on Netscape 4.0.6 decreased from 4.0.5 Dear Digest reader, One would think the newer version of Netscape is more secure than the older version. Actually the opposite appears true. According to my bank, Crestar, and their security testing web page, Netscape 4.0.1 to 4.0.5 are capable of 128bit encryption. 4.0.6 on the other hand is only capable of 40bit encryption. Is this true? How much less secure is 40bit encryption versus 128bit encryption? Is Netscape Communicator less secure than Navigator? Is Netscape 4.0.5 for the Mac capable of 128bit encryption as their web page claims generaly that Netscape 4.0.5 is capable of it? They don't say what platform of Netscape 4.0.5 has 128bit encryption. Thank you. sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 16:21:31 -0700 From: "David L. Hirschberg" Subject: 100 FE ethernet PCMCIA cards (Q) Hello, I see PCMCIA FE cards for peecees advertised but none for the mac. Does any one know if one is made? Since PCMCIA cards are interchangeable is there a software driver that works for a peecee card out there? Thanks, David daneel@stanford.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 16:27:09 +0200 From: Hans de Wolf Subject: [A] Eudora Attachments On Fri, 21 Aug 1998 21:46:06, bc979@lafn.org (Doug Hardie) asked about Eudora Attachments: >I have encountered a problem with Eudora Light in sending attachments. I >am trying to send various files to be used on PCs and Macs. I seem to have >no problems with recipients who use Macs. However, those with PCs have >troubles with the attached files. >I have discovered that if I send a pdf file using the Apple I encoding, >then the recipient on a PC sees the file with an Acrobat symbol and can >actually open it properly. However, if I send a tar file then it shows up >as a generic document. Opening it results in garbage. I have discovered >that the problem is that the MIME type for the PDF file is correct, but the >MIME type for the tar file is text/plain rather than >application/octect-stream. I think that it is not a good idea to use the Apple Single encoding (if that is what you mean by "Apple I"). Try to use Apple Double from Eudora. Apple Single combines the data fork and the resource fork into one file, and attaches information from the Finder to the end of the file. This becomes and undecodable mess for PC's (sometimes you may be lucky: if there is no resource fork, the start of the Apple Single file is the same as the data fork, and the Finder info is just some garbage at the end). If you use Apple Double, the file will be transferred as two MIME parts: one contains the Data Fork with the correct MIME type (which can be used by PC users), the other MIME part contains the resource fork and Mac-specific information, which can be ignored by PC users. -- Hans de Wolf * Hendrik Schaarstraat 26 * NL-1544 WH Zaandijk * Netherlands h.de.wolf@fokkerspace.nl (work) dewolf@knoware.nl (personal) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 98 20:25:13 -0400 From: edward@paleo.org (Edward Reid) Subject: [A] Good disk partitioning sw morethanone writes: > It's most peculiar feature is that the "Startup Disk" CP is ignored --- > on a multi-system folder drive it boots from the system on the disk > *name* that comes first alphabetically. It's not actually ignoring the Startup Disk control panel. Startup Disk is confusing. All it actually saves is the SCSI Id# of the disk you select. It does not include the ability to select a partition from that SCSI Id#. The user interface is what makes Startup Disk so intolerably confusing. It actually shows all mounted disks in its window, and allows you to select one, even a partition. However, if you close it and re-open it, you find that all partitions on that SCSI Id# are selected. You cannot force it to select only one -- again, all it saved was the SCSI Id#. Most disk driver / partitioning software (they invariably come together) has the ability to set which partition is the boot partition on that disk. With Charismac (shipped with APS products), you launch the APS Mounter module, click on the partition you want, click on Info, and check the "Startup drive" checkbox. This is confusing because it automatically turns off the "Startup drive" check on the other partitions on the disk. I'd be very surprised if Silverlining did not have a similar feature. With this feature, you still may need the Startup Disk CP. Select the physical disk with the CP, and the partition on the disk with the driver software. Edward Reid ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:45:33 -0500 From: momma@brainerd.net (morethanone) Subject: [A] Good disk partitioning sw Edward: You wrote > Most disk driver / partitioning software (they invariably > come together) has the ability to set which partition is > the boot partition on that disk. > > I'd be very surprised if Silverlining did not have a similar > feature. I've moved recently and can't put my finger on the manual to quote you directly from LaCie. However I reiterate, there is no provision other than partition name for designating the boot partition. The printed manual (at least the last one I got with a drive purchase, and the one years before it) stipulates that the alphabetical order of the partition names decides which bootable partition is used. The Silverlining application lets you choose which partitions are mounted at startup, with an optional password, and a great deal more. But the application has no boot disk or boot volume selector. Surprise! -- Tony SST.MIDI.Mac.Rock.SciTek ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:33:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Dwight Early Subject: [A] Sun monitor on a Mac? Griffin Technologies makes Apple Video adapters for just about any monitor. Their URL is: http://www.nashville.net/%7Egriffin/video.html Works for me! --Dwight Early At 3:49 PM -0000 8/31/98, Jeff Sass wrote: >Hello Everyone! > >I have come across a Sun Microsystems monitor and was wondering if an >adapter exists to plug this into a Mac or a PC? If you look at the end of >the cable from the monitor it has a very strange pin layout that I have not >seen. > >Does anyone have a good place on the web that handles wierd adapters? >Thanks, >Jeff >_________________________________________________________ >Jeff Sass Adobe Systems >Quality Engineer Minnesota Office >mailto:jsass@adobe.com x34734 or (651) 766-4734 >_________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 98 20:05:34 -0400 From: edward@paleo.org (Edward Reid) Subject: [Q] Modem regularly disconnecting Ian Goldby writes: > I'm wondering if the problem is more likely to be the > software, the modem, the phone line, or the ISP. #1 the phone line, #2 the modem. Software and ISP are unlikely causes. Depending on your ISP, they may be able to help you determine the cause. If they can't help, you can get the phone company to check the line. However, I'd advise going over your modem settings first. Look at whatever documentation came with it (usually poor to nonexistent for modems). It should have a section on Macintosh setup. Most modern modems require little tailoring for a standard ISP connection, but they need slightly different settings for Macs and PCs. Check your PPP settings to make sure it isn't set to disconnect after five minutes of inactivity. Also ask your ISP about inactivity timers. (Five minutes on the ISP side would be intolerably short.) If you find nothing there, ask your phone company to check the line parameters. (I remember that they check noise and power line influence, and one or two others.) They should fix any problems they detect without being asked again. Generally, PPP gets high enough priority that a busy CPU won't cause problems with the modem. If you are still concerned about this possibility, use ZTerm to dial into a plain text system (shell account etc). List some stuff, upload and download some files. If you still get a dropped connection, it wasn't from CPU overload. You could try a different PPP -- OT/PPP or FreePPP, depending on which you are using. Or a demo of FCR's LinkUPPP! (www.fcr.com). But I still think it's most likely the phone line. IE too slow? I used to use it on a IIci. It's true that IE and Acrobat were the main reasons I finally upgraded recently to a Q840AV. Edward Reid ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 98 08:11:33 +1000 From: Chris Moffatt Subject: [Q] Second Video Card for PCI Macs??? Hi there, I am after a second video card for a PCI Mac. All of the Mac ones that I have seen seem to be really expensive. Can I use a PCI Video card from a PC. I don't do any fancy graphics editing, just text and database work. SOmething cheap if possible. Many Thanks Chris Moffatt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 98 08:11:33 +1000 From: Chris Moffatt Subject: [Q] Second Video Card for PCI Macs??? Hi there, I am after a second video card for a PCI Mac. All of the Mac ones that I have seen seem to be really expensive. Can I use a PCI Video card from a PC. I don't do any fancy graphics editing, just text and database work. SOmething cheap if possible. Many Thanks Chris Moffatt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 14:40:05 -0400 From: Rich Zins Subject: [Q] Uploading files to Personal Net Finder One of the nice things about Mac OS 8.1 is the Web Sharing capability. Using the Web Sharing control panel, you can set up a folder to display it's contents via HTTP to anyone using a Web Browser with a finder like display.This is called the Personal Net Finder. By clicking on a file, you either open it in the Web Browser (JPEGs, html, etc.) or the file is downloaded to your disc (application files such as Word documents, Claris Organizer calendars, etc.). I like to use this to get files from my work machine to home (most of them are too big for floppy and I don't have a larger removeable means of storage). I would like to be able to upload files to the Personal Net Finder, so that when I work on something at home, I can then send it back to work for the next day. The Personal Net Finder documentation says this is possible, but the web browser must support uploading of files by HTTP. The problem is, I can't find any browsers that do this. Netscape Navigator 4.0 series allows uploading of files by FTP, but not HTTP. The option is always greyed out when connected to an http URL. Netscape Communicator allows uploading of web pages by HTTP, but it only seems to work for pages created by the Composer module; it doesn't seem to be able to generally upload files. Internet Explorer 4.01 doesn't seem to have any uploading capability at all. I've also looked at Connect 4, an integrated Internet commercial package, but it doesn't seem to be able to do it either. Cyberdog 2.0 doesn't do it either. Does anyone know of a Web browser that has this capability? (Anyone programmers out there that want to make a plug in that gives this capability to the browser?) Rich Zins rzins@eagle1.eaglenet.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 23:52:56 -0500 From: "Paul M. Sheldon" Subject: broken cd on powerbook G3 (Q) Only if I take out Apple CD/DVD Driver extension won't it complain, but then it won't be able to read the disk anyway. Got a copy from store and did disk repair with Disk First Aid through SCSI adapter, but it still didn't work. Reinstalled 8.1 through ethernet (G3 cd installer wouldn't work on my 8500 ppc), with a lot of skipped installations, but still didn't work. Is there a link for mac test pro out there? How do you spell it really, without spaces, with dashes? Please write me back directly and I will rebrief the list. I am way behind on infomac digest reading. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 21:03:37 +0100 From: lyl Subject: c-key and cd-rom Hello there I am a music producer based in Barcelona/Spain. I have a problem with my CD-ROM. I am trying to run my MacOS CD 8.0 from my CD-drive in order to fix the problems that the 'disk first aid' program has found on my hard drive. I have a PPC 7200/90Mhz. When I try to start up the system from the CD with either c-key or changing the control panel start up disk (or both) the system won't boot from the disk which means that I can't fix my hard disk problems. Would be really greatful, if someone could help me!! Thanx a lot in advance Andreas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:33:45 +0200 From: Matti Haveri Subject: CD app - how to increase memory size I have a MacroMedia CD-app which runs from the CD only with virtual memory off. With VM on the app refuses to open (too little memory). I can copy the CD to the harddisk and increase the app's memory size allowing the app to run also with VM on but I'd rather save my disk space here. Is there any way to increase an app's memory size when it is run from a locked volume like CD? Here is Finder info for this app: VM on: Preferred size 4513 (will increase by 587K if VM is turned off) VM off: Preferred size 5100 (will decreae by 587K if VM is turned on) -- Matti Haveri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 21:31:47 -0600 From: Jason Torrey Subject: Contextual Menu Problems and IE 4.0.1 Does someone know how to turn off the Mac OS contextual menus in IE 4.0.1? Usually, there is a item in the Help menu in all applications that allows you to turn off the contextual menus, but this option does not show in IE 4.0.1. The reason: IE 4.0.1 seems to crash periodically when the Mac OS extensions for contextual menus are loaded. Interestingly enough IE and Word/Excel/Powerpoint all use their own contextual menus. Thanks, Jason jtorrey@qni.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 21:01:33 +0300 From: Michael Camp Subject: Editing Extensions Manager Info ??? Like many Mac users I like to switch off those unneeded extensions. When Mac OS 8.0 came out, Conflict Catcher was not immediately compatible, so I used Extensions Manager and I found it to be quite good, and I now see no real need to go back to Conflict Catcher. One big shortcoming of Extensions Manager is the absense of any useful information on each extension, and the useless message "No additional information available for this item". Why Apple cannot provide information on its own extensions, at least, beats me! A simple line like "Required for ......." or "Unnecessary unless ........" would be a great help. Of course the information is available from other sources like "Extension Overload" or "InformInit", but is there any way to update (or edit) the information appearing in Extensions Manager? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 09:31:24 -0400 From: abrody@smart.net Subject: Eudora 4.0 for Macintosh features (Q) Dear Digest readers, Does Eudora 4.0 Pro for the Mac have the split screen its Windows counterpart does with all the folders in one screen, all the messages in another, and all the message contents in a third? This layout has been particularly appealing to me and so far the Lite version of Eudora for the Mac has failed to take it on. Sure I can use Outlook Express, but a recent crash reminded me that I am still using a Microsoft product. The crash deleted all my preferences for Outlook Express, and it happened because as I was using the csOTPPP control strip. I had to find a way to get my Outlook Express to read my folders again, which I did, but if I can get Eudora Pro to recognize Outlook Express folders I would prefer using it over Outlook (if Eudora Pro still has the split screen). Thank you. Sincerely, abrody@smart.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:31:47 -0500 From: Charles Stang Subject: extra dialog box I manage a small localtalk network connected by an Assante print device to an ethernet hub of a Mac server using appleshare IP 5. Since I upgraded our computers from OS 7.1 to OS 8.1, each time a computer is logged on it gets a dialog box saying "Your appletalk network is now available", and the computer stops till OK is clicked. This did not happen before, nor does it happen to other machines connected to the server directly by ethernet. Does anyone know a way to eliminate this dialog box? Thanks Charles Stang ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:34:42 +0900 From: Magnus Hoek Subject: Harddisk trouble Hi there (again) Just after I managed to fix my broken PowerCenter Pro (after many useful comments from the readers of Info-Mac) one of my harddisks became unreadable (unmountable). The disk is 4GB and formatted with HFS+. When I try to verify/repair with Disk First Aid 8.2 I get the message: "Problem: Invalid BTree node size, 3, 0" "Test done. Problems were found, but Disk First Aid cannot repair them." I then tried TechTool Pro 2.0.1 and when I select the "Drives" panel and run all the tests it says that all tests passed BUT the test results are "unavailable". Anybody have any ideas how I can retrieve my data ? I would like to try the beta version of the latest Norton Utilities but I can't find it. I would be most grateful if I could download this version from a friendly soul... TIA Magnus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:49:57 EDT From: Luskin@aol.com Subject: How do I do a system install from a zip drive? We down loaded the System 7.5 Update 2 patches from the Apple web site. They are now, all fourteen of them, on a zip drive, with titles System 7.5 Update 2 - 2 image, System 7.5 Update 2 -3 image, and so forth. The first "floppy disk" of the set is a folder looking just like the folder that one sees when doing an installation directly from real floppy disks. All goes perfectly, when I attempt to do the installation, until I get the message "Please insert the disk: System 7.5 Update 2.0 - 2". The machine is actually looking for a floppy disk in the floppy disk drive. Is it at all possible to do the whole thing from the zip drive, or must I actually create fourteen floppy disks? If so, how? I have Disk Copy version 6.1.3. Do I need to use it, if I must make the floppy disks? Or is there some magic I can do with it so that I can use the "floppy disks" on the zip drive? While awaiting an answer, I will fool around, and report if I have answers that might help other people trying to make use of older machines. Thank you. Michael B. Luskin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1998 22:47:35 +0100 From: Rick@squires.demon.co.uk (Rick Squires) Subject: iMac, Laserwriter and 8600/200 Hi , I have a PowerMac 8600/200, a shiny new iMac(love it) and a Laserwriter 4/600/PS printer. I have got the 2 Macs talkint away quite well via an Apple Workgroup hub - both machines can see each others' hard drives and also the zip on the 8600. I am doing this by turning on Ethernet in the Appletalk control panel on both Macs, then file sharing etc - works great but a bit slow According to the manuals(yes some of us read them) my LW printer has something(software) called Laserwriter Bridge. I have tried installing this, but the 8600(which has the LW hooked up to the printer port) moans on startup that there is an Appletalk error I am confused about Ethertalks etc - I think I need to turn on some other stuff, but where is it? - I don't understand all the different flavours of Mac networks. Any help greatly appreciated(I can't be the only one). Please e-mail & I'll stick a digest onto the list Cheers Rick Squires ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 22:23:39 -0500 From: Tim Biddle Subject: Info-Mac Digest V16 #164 >hi > >> 1. is there an effective limit to the length of those phone-looking >> ethernet cables? one of the machines will >> be about 100 feet from the hub. > >Yes, 90 feet, I'm not kidding 90 feet! Isn't that always the way? ...the official Twisted Pair standard for Category V is 100 METERS from workstation to Hub. This includes all patch cables, cross-connects, and everything. So, the maximum should be somewhere around 325 FEET. Now, the EIA/TIA 568 standard says that there should be allowed 10 meters for patch cables and cross-connects, leaving 90 meters for station cable run. If your maximum distance is 100 feet, you are well within the limit. Thanks. Tim. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 15:52:47 -0600 From: Tim Brogdon Subject: Memory Cache Question How exactly does changing the size of the disk cache in the memory control panel affect the performance of the computer? Thanks, Tim Brogdon mailto:tbrogdon@memphis.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 23:10:24 -0600 From: jcarzoli@mc.net (John Carzoli) Subject: Memory Upgrade for Xclaim VR Hi I just purchased the XClaim VR 3D/2D accelerator for use with the X-Plane flight sim. This card comes with 4MB SGRAM upgradable to 8MB. ATI sells the upgrade for $89 or so but I've seen 4MN SGRAM chips for as low as $30. I don't know if I would be replacingf the 4MB chip with an 8MB chip or simply adding a 4MB chip. In either case does anyone know if these other SGRAM chips would work or can I only use the chip sold by ATI? Thanks John Carzoli jcarzoli@mc.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 15:57:54 -0600 From: Tim Brogdon Subject: MS Word Doc problem I'm the editor for a local newsletter. I'm putting it together in Word 6. It's roughly 20 pages long, full of PICT files copied directly from Graphic Converter, and weighs in when finished at 9 Megabytes. I'm finding it very difficult to work in or save this document. I've increased Word's memory to 12000 and am still having difficulties. My 7200/120, sys 8, with 64MGs of RAM, virtual memory ON, disk cache set to 2048, keeps freezing on me. Any suggestions? Thanks, Tim Brogdon mailto:tbrogdon@memphis.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:17:31 -0700 From: Cheryl Peters Subject: Netscape Clipping >Anyone know how to create a text clipping out of a Netscape page window? >Netscape is the only application I know where you can't wipe the text you >want, and drag it to the desktop to create a clipping. I don't want the >whole page, just the highlighted text. Surely, either Netscape itself >supports such a function and I don't know the "secret handshake," or maybe >there is a plug-in somewhere to make it happen. This problem has bothered me, too, because I often want to save only a paragraph or two from a page. I have discovered that sometimes I can highlight a paragraph by pushing the shift key and double-clicking, but it doesn't seem to always work. Does anyone know any more about this? By the way, I could select text easily in Netscape 3.0. Cheryl Morality is not properly the doctrine of how we make ourselves happy, but how we make ourselves worthy of happiness. -Immanual Kant ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:46:56 -0500 From: Sam Snoid Subject: NUM 4 I just received an advertisement for Norton Utilities for Mac 4.0 Since this will be the third time I've purchached NUM, I want to to know if it will have any problems with OS 8.5, since it appears that 8.5 will be the last OS I can use with my 603e. Any clues? TIA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 13:56:06 +0000 From: bg409@lafn.org Subject: OS update help I would like to update from MAC OS 7.5 to 7.5.3 but need to download in segments. I cannot locate this info in inf-mac - is it there? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 00:03:07 -0400 From: Louis Bergeron Subject: PGP Freeware 6.0 After a lot of search on the site where is now PGP http://www.nai.com I was able to find it at the following URL http://www.nai.com/products/security/pgpfreeware.asp This version is for USA and CANADA only. The machine will check your address. There is also a link via MacHome Journal WWW site which is direct to the downloading site, but with this one it should work. For those interested you can also buy a version with the documentation. This is an incredibly useful product now integrated perfectly in Eudora to encrypt your mail on the fly. With the older versions, it was difficult to say the least. Phil Z is still in it and maintains this freeware version. He is now a high level consultant. Good for him. He deserved it. Louis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:27:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Dwight Early Subject: PPP Redial Dear Al, Long time since we last communicated. I too have several Macs in my house with an occasion daughter's PB getting hooked when she's home from college. So, I bit the bullet and set up an Ethernet hub. Everything works like a champ because I bought IPNetRouter ($89) to run on my 8600 in the background to act as a s/w router/firewall to my ISP. URL for IPNetRouter is http://www.sustworks.com/ It's good. No problemo. Any Mac on my HouseNet can now access the Internet via the 8600 and IPNetRouter. Simple, Sweet, no Gymnastics. Hope this helps. --Dwight Early At 10:36 PM -0000 8/31/98, Al Bloom wrote: >Once again I fear I have done something terribly stupid and >deserve to die. I'm hoping one or more of you can correct my >errant ways. > >I've set up a phoney TCP/IP network among our three home Macs. >Retrospect backup goes like grass through a goose over TCP/IP >as opposed to Appletalk. That is OK as long as I remember to >switch back the real TCP/IP settings of my 7300 and 5300 (Leslye >is, alas, dependent upon the kindness of her husband to get into >the net) after the backup. > >Or so I thought. Works fine for my 7300, but the PowerBook has >gotten goofy. In "real" TCP/IP mode, disconnecting PPP yields an >automatic redial and reconnect attempt to my ISP. Boring. > >I'm sure I once knew what that meant and how to fix it, but memory >is an increasingly iffy thing at my age. Yes, I've looked at the >manual for OT/PPP. It says to check TCP/IP's "load only when needed" >box. Aren't we supposed to avoid that? In any event, that doesn't >fix the problem. > >Help!!!!! > >Al ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:38:19 -0700 From: chesnuts@worldnet.att.net Subject: printing from web pages > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:18:48 +0100 > From: glaston > Subject: Printing Webpages > > When I print some web pages, they do not fit on the > paper and the overflow portion, often only a letter or two, prints on > another page. This is not only frustrating, it wastes a lot of paper. > I'm using a Personal Laserwriter 320 and LaserWriter 8. I have tried the > US > Letter Small as well as US Letter Page Setup settings, but that does not > seem to help. etc. etc. If you go to your "page setup" dialog in the file menu you can scale the size of your page to whatever size you need. Then just check your "print preview" to make sure the page fits the way you want. We use this all the time to make sure the Epicurious recipes fit on one page!! Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:41:18 -0800 From: Larry Buzzell Subject: printing web pages >Glaston writes about getting extra, almost-blank sheets when printing web >pages. I sort of solved the problem by printing in landscape mode. Now, even the really wide pages print right. Larry from Juneau, Alaska. Playground for Whales, Eagles, and Macintoshes! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:36:51 -0400 From: Ed Ver Hoef Subject: Printing Webpages > Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 10:18:48 +0100 > From: glaston > Subject: Printing Webpages > > This is a silly problem that I have been unable to solve for years. > Perhaps > somebody can help. When I print some web pages, they do not fit on the > paper and the overflow portion, often only a letter or two, prints on > another page. This is not only frustrating, it wastes a lot of paper. > I'm using a Personal Laserwriter 320 and LaserWriter 8. I have tried the > US > Letter Small as well as US Letter Page Setup settings, but that does not > seem to help. > If I set the font sizes any smaller in Navigator, I can't read the > monitor. > I have looked at the famous manuals and I never seem to be able to find > anything that addresses the problem? > Any serious advice for a silly problem? I have had this problem and my solution is to go to Page Setup and reduce the image to the appropriate percentage to fit on a single page. It usually takes only a small reduction - I typically can print at 93% to 95% and everything still is quite readable. A few of the pages I print (typically my borkerage report) require landscape format and a similar slight reduction to fit horizontally on a single page. I am using an old HP 520 for most of my printing so I don't know whether this technique works on fancier printers. Ed Ver Hoef ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:49:09 EDT From: Luskin@aol.com Subject: Problem with MDBF virus On my LC III, I run System 7.5.5, which I got to by installing 7.5, updating to 7.5.1, updating to 7.5.3, and finally to 7.5.5. I just bought VIREX, and in the pre installation scan, I am told that my machine has mdbf. VIREX cannot repair it. I scanned all the installation floppies, and did not find any mdbf. The three updates were downloaded from the Apple ftp site, so I trust them pretty much. However, my base copy of 7.5 came from the user support area at MicrCommCenter. I am suspicious of that set of disks. However, when I put them into my G3, virex does a scan of them, and finds nothing. I have no idea what the format of an OS install disk is, and I wonder if Virex is scanning the contents. Is it? Second, how do I get rid of this? Could it be that mdbf is a property of the disk directory, which, I understand, is not replaced at the time a system install is done? Or where else could it have come from, where could it be coming from. I downloaded my AOL 3.0 for the 68k machine from AOL, and I don't think it could have come from there as well... Any advice on where to look? And how can I kill this off once and for all? According to the documentation, mdbf is a property of the operating system, so can I assume that my applications are OK? Since I have carried floppies back and forth between this machine and my G3 many many times, how is it that the infection did not spread> For that matter, why is it not on my other machines? Thank you. Michael B. Luskin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 10:51:24 -0500 From: Will Wagers Subject: Should I be using PowerFPU? Hi, I have a PowerMac 6500/300 8.1. Would I benefit from using PowerFPU or Speed Doubler? Thanks for your help. Will Wagers hyle@gte.net "Reality is the best metaphor." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 21:31:23 -0400 From: Louis Bergeron Subject: Steve Jobs outlines OS plans Steve Jobs outlines OS plans With three profitable Apple quarters behind him, the interim CEO mapped out details on Mac OS 8.5 and the upcoming OS X at Seybold's San Francisco conference. http://www.news.com/News/Item/0%2C4%2C25936%2C00.html?dd.ne.tx.ts0901 Louis Bergeron C.P. 936 Rouyn Rouyn-Noranda Qc Canada J9X 5C8 Telephone-Phone (819) 764-3862 Telecopieur-Fax (819) 764-3758 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:27:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Craig A Summerhill Subject: Utility for checking memory configuration I have a large number of Macintoshes that I am going to be upgrading (adding RAM, hard drives, etc.), that's why I want it. I don't want to have to open everybody's machine until I am ready to do the upgrades... So, I am looking for a Macintosh utility that I can run on a computer which will tell me what the current memory configuration of the comuter is (e.g. which slots are in use, what size chips are in each slot, etc.). I the searched info-mac archives, but I have not found anything that fits the bill. In honesty, I don't even know if such a thing is possible. I know there are utilities which will check a system and tell how much total memory is installed and how much virtual memory is in use, or will scan the existing memory stack to show what is used. However, I am looking for something that will assist me in determining the existing hardware configuration of a machine. (If anybody knows of such a utility, could you drop me a line directly. I no longer subscribe to info-mac.) -- Craig A. Summerhill, Systems Coordinator and Program Officer Coalition for Networked Information 21 Dupont Circle, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20036 Internet: craig@cni.org AT&Tnet (202) 296-5098 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 98 18:59:03 -0400 From: edward@paleo.org (Edward Reid) Subject: what does the getinfo information mean MBL asks: > When I do a getinfo on a particular folder, I get: 2.3 MB on disk (1,288.188 > bytes), for 26 items. > > When I do a getinfo on the hard drive, I get: 386.4 MB on disk (405,196,800 > bytes) for 1,978 items. > > What is the significance of the two numbers in each report? And why are the > relative sizes reversed in these two reports? Interesting question! I had never noticed the difference between the way the Finder reports info on disks and folders, but I think I can explain it. Three factors enter into the apparent discrepancies you see: 1) the computer business's nonstandard use of "mega". 2) disk allocation strategy in chunks. 3) a reporting difference for efficiency. Specifics: 1) Computer people use "mega" to mean 1,048,576, or 2^20, instead of the standard 1,000,000 or 10^6. Thus 100 MB = 100 x 2^^20 bytes = 104.9 million bytes. This is why the figure expressed in bytes can appear to be larger than the figure expressed in bytes. 2) Disk space is allocated in chunks. The size of a chunk on an HFS disk varies with the size of the disk: 512 bytes on a floppy, 32K on a 1GB disk, etc, reflecting the limitation that a disk can have at most 65,535 chunks in the entire HFS disk. (HFS+ removes this limitation and uses the same size chunks for all disks. HFS+ will still show the effects of allocation by chunks, but it will usually be much less dramatic.) The reason for using chunks is simply efficiency. Allocating disk space one byte at a time would use a lot of CPU power and would make a very messy disk. But most files will not use all of the last chunk allocated. For example, the chunk size on my disk is 31,744. If I have a file with 1000 bytes, then 30,744 bytes are allocated but not used. In the folder info report, the "on disk" figure is the space allocated, and the byte count in parentheses is the space actually used. The space used is always <= the space allocated. Handling the effects of allocation by chunks could be the subject of many essays -- and has been. 3) But in the disk info report, the two figures are the same. In your example, divide 405,196,800 by 1,048,576 -- a megabyte in computer jargon -- and you get 386.4 when rounded to one decimal place. Obviously the Finder is reporting the allocated space in both figures. Why? Efficiency. Do a Get Info on a large folder, listen to your hard disk while you wait, and time how long it takes to display the result. Then do the same for the hard disk. On a fast Mac with no really large folder, you may have trouble noticing the difference. What I see is this: for the disk, the info appears with no delay and no disk activity. But for a folder with about 1,000 files, the disk is wildly active for almost five seconds before the info displays. Obviously the Finder is reading through the folder and all subfolders to add up the space allocated to and used by each file! The MacOS must keep track of the space allocated on the disk, so that figure is always immediately available. For a folder, though, the Finder must read the folder and all subfolders to calculate the space. Since it is reading all these directories, it might as well calculate both space allocated and space used. It could do the same for the hard disk, but that might take a very long time -- as indeed it will take quite a long time for a folder containing 10,000 files. So the Apple software engineers compromised. They gave you both allocated and used space for files and folders, but allocated space only for disks. However, they also followed the Apple Philosophy of "The User Doesn't Really Want To Know What's Going On". So they hid the difference by making both displays look the same, EVEN THOUGH THEY DISPLAY DIFFERENT INFORMATION. Aren't you thrilled? I know I am. I have to admit the strategy is effective, as I had never noticed the difference. Edward Reid ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 23:42:08 -0500 From: Chaz Larson Subject: what does the getinfo information mean >When I do a getinfo on a particular folder, I get: 2.3 MB on disk (1,288.188 >bytes), for 26 items. > >When I do a getinfo on the hard drive, I get: 386.4 MB on disk (405,196,800 >bytes) for 1,978 items. > >What is the significance of the two numbers in each report? The first is the amount of space allocated on the drive for the files. This will always be a multiple of the allocation block size of your drive. The second number is the amount of space actually used by the files. For example, a 100MB ZIP disk has an allocation block size of 1.5K. If I create a text file containing only the word "test", that file is 5 bytes in size. However, when I save it to that Zip, Get Info reports "2K on disk (5 bytes)" (the display appears to round up to nearest integer for small values). If I make 10 duplicates of that file, put them all in a folder, and Get Info on that folder, it says "15K on disk (50 bytes)". Each file contains 5 bytes of data (10 x 5 = 50) but each file takes a single allocation block (10 x 1.5 = 15K). SO in your first case, those 26 files add up to 1.2Mb, but the allocation blocks those files occupy take up 2.3Mb, just like the 50 bytes of data in my example occupied 15K on disk. The HFS Plus format that was introduced with MacOS 8.1 improves this "disk slack" by increasing the number of allocation blocks on a given disk, which reduces the size of each block. For example, my Metrowerks CodeWarrior folder, which contains oodles of small files, currently reports "484.7 MB on disk (432,508,664 bytes)". ((432,508,664 / 1024) / 1024) = 412 MB, so that folder currently contains about 70Mb of wasted space. The allocation block size on the disk is 11K. If I were to reformat the drive as an HFS Plus volume, that folder would occupy much closer to 412Mb, since the amount of wasted space in each of those tiny files would be dramatically reduced. In the second case: 405,196,800 bytes / 1024 = 395,700 Kilobytes 395,700 Kilobytes / 1024 = 386.4 Megabytes chazl - 9.2.1998 - chaz@visi.com I'm wondering if any of my info-mac mail is getting through. 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